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Quelle prison au monde est plus cruelle

Le Gendre, Jean

DC0115

Text

Phrase Number Measures Rhyme Phrase
1 1–6 a Quelle prison au monde est plus cruelle
2 6–10 c Pour deux amans qu’une bien longue absence?
3 1–6 a Quelle douleur peult estre plus mortelle
4 6–10 b Que de n’avoir de son mal allegeance?
5 11–18 b O dieu amour monstrez vostre puissance
6 17–21 c Convertissez par honneste moyen
7 22–27 b Dueil et regret en seure jouyssance
8 27–32 c Pour faire à deux amans un pareil bien.

Music

Observations

Phrase Measures Analyst Show details
1 1–6 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
956
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Simple
1 1–5 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
962
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
1 2–2 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
961
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
1 2–6 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
958
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
1 3–6 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
959
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Simple
1 3–6 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
963
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Simple
1 5–6 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
957
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
1 5–6 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
960
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
1 5–6 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
964
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
2 6–8 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
965
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
FI
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Superius
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Bassus
Voice Role (@1 or @8)
Bassus
Voice Role (Below)
Bassus
Other Formulas
Romanesca
2 6–9 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
968
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
FI
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Superius
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Bassus
Voice Role (@1 or @8)
Bassus
Voice Role (Below)
Bassus
2 6–8 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
966
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Stagger
2 6–10 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
969
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
2 6–7 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
971
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Stagger

Comments

B late

2 7–8 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
972
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
2 8–9 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
973
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No

Comments

3/8 in S/B

2 9–10 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
974
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
2 9–10 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
970
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
2 9–10 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
967
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
3 1–6 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
975
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Direct Repeat
Earlier Phrase
1
Repeat, Exact or Varied?
3 1–6 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
976
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Direct Repeat
Earlier Phrase
1
Repeat, Exact or Varied?
3 1–6 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
977
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Direct Repeat
Earlier Phrase
1
Repeat, Exact or Varied?
4 6–10 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
978
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Direct Repeat
Earlier Phrase
2
Repeat, Exact or Varied?
4 6–10 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
979
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Direct Repeat
Earlier Phrase
2
Repeat, Exact or Varied?
4 6–10 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
980
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Direct Repeat
Earlier Phrase
2
Repeat, Exact or Varied?
5 11–11 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
992
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No

Comments

Should the text say "A-dieu" instead of "O-dieu"?

5 11–12 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
981
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Simple
Other Formulas
Romanesca
5 11–15 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
987
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Simple
5 11–13 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
988
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
5 13–14 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
982
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Simple
Other Formulas
Romanesca
5 13–14 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
991
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Formulas
Romanesca

Comments

3/8 in S/B, 11-12 = 13-14 except the voices exchange parts S=>T, Ct=>S, T=>Ct

5 13–15 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
989
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Formulas
Romanesca
5 14–17 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
984
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
FI
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Bassus
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Tenor
Voice Role (@1 or @8)
Tenor
Voice Role (Above)
Tenor
5 14–16 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
993
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Stagger

Comments

T late

5 14–16 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
983
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Stagger
5 16–16 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
985
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
5 16–17 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
990
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
5 17–17 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
986
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
5 17–17 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
994
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
6 17–20 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
998
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
PEn
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Contratenor
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Superius
Voice Role (Dux 2)
Tenor
Voice Role (@4)
Superius
Voice Role (Above)
Superius
Voice Role (Below)
Bassus
Other Counterpoint
Stretto Fuga
6 17–19 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
1000
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
PEn Tonal
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Contratenor
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Superius
Voice Role (Dux 2)
Tenor
Voice Role (Comes 2)
Bassus
Voice Role (@1 or @8)
Tenor
Voice Role (@5)
Bassus
Voice Role (@4)
Superius
Voice Role (Above)
Superius
Voice Role (Below)
Tenor

Comments

B @ 5 below, T must enter 1/2 beat late to be heard through S repeating C's

6 17–19 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
995
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
PEn Tonal
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Contratenor
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Superius
Voice Role (Dux 2)
Tenor
Voice Role (@4)
Superius
Voice Role (Above)
Superius

Comments

B is @ 5 below.

6 19–21 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
996
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Formulas
Romanesca
6 19–20 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
1001
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
6 20–21 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
999
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
6 20–21 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
1002
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Formulas
Romanesca
6 20–21 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
997
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
7 21–27 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
1006
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Final Repeat
Earlier Phrase
7
Repeat, Exact or Varied?
7 21–21 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
1004
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Text Treatment
Text Pause

Comments

All voices pause before returning to musical material from opening (i.e. phrases 1-2).

7 22–27 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
1007
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Direct Repeat
Earlier Phrase
1
Repeat, Exact or Varied?
7 22–27 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
1003
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Da Capo
Earlier Phrase
1
Repeat, Exact or Varied?
7 22–27 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
1005
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Direct Repeat
Earlier Phrase
1
Repeat, Exact or Varied?
8 27–31 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
1008
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Da Capo
Earlier Phrase
2
Repeat, Exact or Varied?
8 27–32 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
1010
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Final Repeat
Earlier Phrase
8
Repeat, Exact or Varied?
8 27–32 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
1009
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Direct Repeat
Earlier Phrase
2
Repeat, Exact or Varied?
8 27–31 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
1011
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Direct Repeat
Earlier Phrase
2
Repeat, Exact or Varied?

Comments

m8 and m 29 have different PT's. Should repeat at end of phrase return to 22 instead of 21?

8 30–31 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
1012
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No

Comments

same text pause ending cadence in m 21 phrase 6