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Si mon grand mal ne peult finir

Guilliaud, Maximilian

DC0303

Text

Phrase Number Measures Rhyme Phrase
1 1–4 a Si mon grand mal ne peult finir,
2 4–8 b Si non par vous mais tousjours croistre,
3 1–4 a Et je meurs pour un souvenir,
4 4–8 b Comment pour veoir vif pouray-je estre?
5 9–12 b Las l’œil de mon coeur la fenestre,
6 12–15 c En vous voyant vit seulement,
7 15–20 b Et si se meurt Par ce cognoistre,
8 25–29 c Povez mon mal et mon tourment.

Music

Observations

Phrase Measures Analyst Show details
1 1–4 Magruder, Katherine Expand
Analysis ID
2978
Analyst
Magruder, Katherine
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
NIM
Voice Role (Upper Voice 1 NIM)
Superius
Voice Role (Lower Voice 1 NIM)
Contratenor
Voice Role (Upper Voice 2 NIM)
Tenor
Voice Role (Lower Voice 2 NIM)
Bassus
1 1–3 Buchanan, Christopher Expand
Analysis ID
2973
Analyst
Buchanan, Christopher
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Voice Role (Upper Voice 1 NIM)
Superius
Voice Role (Lower Voice 1 NIM)
Contratenor
Voice Role (Upper Voice 2 NIM)
Tenor
Voice Role (Lower Voice 2 NIM)
Bassus
Voice Role (@1 or @8)
Tenor
Voice Role (Below)
Tenor
1 1–3 Holscher, Joshua Expand
Analysis ID
2975
Analyst
Holscher, Joshua
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
1 1–3 Holscher, Joshua Expand
Analysis ID
2974
Analyst
Holscher, Joshua
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
NIM
Voice Role (Upper Voice 1 NIM)
Superius
Voice Role (Lower Voice 1 NIM)
Contratenor
Voice Role (Upper Voice 2 NIM)
Tenor
Voice Role (Lower Voice 2 NIM)
Bassus
Voice Role (@1 or @8)
Bassus
Voice Role (Below)
Bassus
1 2–3 Magruder, Katherine Expand
Analysis ID
2979
Analyst
Magruder, Katherine
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
1 2–3 Holscher, Joshua Expand
Analysis ID
2976
Analyst
Holscher, Joshua
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
1 3–4 Magruder, Katherine Expand
Analysis ID
2980
Analyst
Magruder, Katherine
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
1 3–4 Holscher, Joshua Expand
Analysis ID
2977
Analyst
Holscher, Joshua
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
2 4–4 Holscher, Joshua Expand
Analysis ID
2983
Analyst
Holscher, Joshua
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Text Treatment
Text Overlap
2 4–4 Magruder, Katherine Expand
Analysis ID
2988
Analyst
Magruder, Katherine
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Text Treatment
Text Overlap
2 5–7 Magruder, Katherine Expand
Analysis ID
2989
Analyst
Magruder, Katherine
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
2 5–6 Buchanan, Christopher Expand
Analysis ID
2981
Analyst
Buchanan, Christopher
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Stagger
2 5–5 Holscher, Joshua Expand
Analysis ID
2984
Analyst
Holscher, Joshua
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No

Comments

Tenor enters on dissonance

2 5–6 Holscher, Joshua Expand
Analysis ID
2985
Analyst
Holscher, Joshua
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
2 7–8 Magruder, Katherine Expand
Analysis ID
2990
Analyst
Magruder, Katherine
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
2 7–8 Holscher, Joshua Expand
Analysis ID
2987
Analyst
Holscher, Joshua
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
2 7–8 Buchanan, Christopher Expand
Analysis ID
2982
Analyst
Buchanan, Christopher
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
2 7–7 Holscher, Joshua Expand
Analysis ID
2986
Analyst
Holscher, Joshua
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
3 1–4 Buchanan, Christopher Expand
Analysis ID
2991
Analyst
Buchanan, Christopher
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Direct Repeat
Earlier Phrase
1
Repeat, Exact or Varied?
3 1–4 Magruder, Katherine Expand
Analysis ID
2993
Analyst
Magruder, Katherine
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Direct Repeat
Earlier Phrase
1
Repeat, Exact or Varied?
3 1–4 Holscher, Joshua Expand
Analysis ID
2992
Analyst
Holscher, Joshua
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Direct Repeat
Earlier Phrase
1
Repeat, Exact or Varied?
4 4–8 Magruder, Katherine Expand
Analysis ID
2997
Analyst
Magruder, Katherine
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Direct Repeat
Earlier Phrase
2
Repeat, Exact or Varied?
4 4–8 Buchanan, Christopher Expand
Analysis ID
2994
Analyst
Buchanan, Christopher
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Direct Repeat
Earlier Phrase
2
Repeat, Exact or Varied?
4 4–8 Holscher, Joshua Expand
Analysis ID
2995
Analyst
Holscher, Joshua
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Direct Repeat
Earlier Phrase
2
Repeat, Exact or Varied?
4 8–8 Holscher, Joshua Expand
Analysis ID
2996
Analyst
Holscher, Joshua
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Text Treatment
Text Pause
5 9–9 Magruder, Katherine Expand
Analysis ID
3004
Analyst
Magruder, Katherine
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Text Treatment
Text Declamation
5 9–9 Holscher, Joshua Expand
Analysis ID
3000
Analyst
Holscher, Joshua
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Text Treatment
Text Declamation
5 9–9 Magruder, Katherine Expand
Analysis ID
3003
Analyst
Magruder, Katherine
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Dactyll
Text Treatment
Text Pause
5 9–11 Holscher, Joshua Expand
Analysis ID
3001
Analyst
Holscher, Joshua
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Simple
5 10–13 Buchanan, Christopher Expand
Analysis ID
2998
Analyst
Buchanan, Christopher
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Dactyll
Text Treatment
Text Pause
5 10–13 Magruder, Katherine Expand
Analysis ID
3005
Analyst
Magruder, Katherine
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
5 12–12 Magruder, Katherine Expand
Analysis ID
3006
Analyst
Magruder, Katherine
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
5 12–12 Buchanan, Christopher Expand
Analysis ID
2999
Analyst
Buchanan, Christopher
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
5 12–13 Holscher, Joshua Expand
Analysis ID
3002
Analyst
Holscher, Joshua
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
6 12–14 Holscher, Joshua Expand
Analysis ID
3010
Analyst
Holscher, Joshua
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
FI
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Superius
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Tenor
Voice Role (@1 or @8)
Tenor
Voice Role (Below)
Tenor
6 12–14 Buchanan, Christopher Expand
Analysis ID
3007
Analyst
Buchanan, Christopher
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
FI
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Superius
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Tenor
Voice Role (@1 or @8)
Tenor
Voice Role (Below)
Tenor
6 12–15 Holscher, Joshua Expand
Analysis ID
3009
Analyst
Holscher, Joshua
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Stagger
6 12–14 Magruder, Katherine Expand
Analysis ID
3013
Analyst
Magruder, Katherine
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
FI
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Superius
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Tenor
Voice Role (@1 or @8)
Tenor
Voice Role (Below)
Tenor
6 13–14 Holscher, Joshua Expand
Analysis ID
3011
Analyst
Holscher, Joshua
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
6 13–14 Magruder, Katherine Expand
Analysis ID
3014
Analyst
Magruder, Katherine
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
6 14–15 Buchanan, Christopher Expand
Analysis ID
3008
Analyst
Buchanan, Christopher
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
6 14–15 Holscher, Joshua Expand
Analysis ID
3012
Analyst
Holscher, Joshua
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
6 14–15 Magruder, Katherine Expand
Analysis ID
3015
Analyst
Magruder, Katherine
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
7 15–17 Magruder, Katherine Expand
Analysis ID
3024
Analyst
Magruder, Katherine
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
7 15–17 Holscher, Joshua Expand
Analysis ID
3021
Analyst
Holscher, Joshua
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
7 16–16 Buchanan, Christopher Expand
Analysis ID
3016
Analyst
Buchanan, Christopher
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Text Treatment
Text Representation

Comments

Phrygian cadence on "meurt"

7 16–16 Magruder, Katherine Expand
Analysis ID
3026
Analyst
Magruder, Katherine
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Text Treatment
Text Representation

Comments

Phrygian cadence on "Et si se meurt"

7 16–16 Holscher, Joshua Expand
Analysis ID
3019
Analyst
Holscher, Joshua
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Text Treatment
Text Declamation

Comments

Text Declaim: whole note pause at "meurt"

7 17–19 Holscher, Joshua Expand
Analysis ID
3022
Analyst
Holscher, Joshua
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
7 17–19 Magruder, Katherine Expand
Analysis ID
3025
Analyst
Magruder, Katherine
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
7 17–19 Buchanan, Christopher Expand
Analysis ID
3017
Analyst
Buchanan, Christopher
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Stagger
7 17–20 Holscher, Joshua Expand
Analysis ID
3020
Analyst
Holscher, Joshua
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Stagger
7 19–20 Buchanan, Christopher Expand
Analysis ID
3018
Analyst
Buchanan, Christopher
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Text Treatment
Text Overlap
7 19–20 Holscher, Joshua Expand
Analysis ID
3023
Analyst
Holscher, Joshua
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
7 19–20 Magruder, Katherine Expand
Analysis ID
3027
Analyst
Magruder, Katherine
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
8 19–23 Magruder, Katherine Expand
Analysis ID
3040
Analyst
Magruder, Katherine
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
FI
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Contratenor
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Superius
Voice Role (Dux 2)
Tenor
Voice Role (Comes 2)
Bassus
Voice Role (@1 or @8)
Superius
Voice Role (Above)
Superius
Other Counterpoint
Invertible Counterpoint
8 19–20 Holscher, Joshua Expand
Analysis ID
3033
Analyst
Holscher, Joshua
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Text Treatment
Text Overlap
8 19–23 Buchanan, Christopher Expand
Analysis ID
3028
Analyst
Buchanan, Christopher
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
ID
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Contratenor
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Superius
Voice Role (Dux 2)
Tenor
Voice Role (Comes 2)
Bassus
Voice Role (@1 or @8)
Tenor
Voice Role (Below)
Tenor
Other Counterpoint
Stretto Fuga
Text Treatment
Text Representation

Comments

Melismas on "mal" Underlay in mm. 19/20 in Ct might be incorrect.

8 19–25 Holscher, Joshua Expand
Analysis ID
3036
Analyst
Holscher, Joshua
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Final Repeat
Earlier Phrase
8
Repeat, Exact or Varied?

Comments

Varied Repeat: Evaded cadence of first ending becomes authentic for 2nd ending.

8 19–20 Magruder, Katherine Expand
Analysis ID
3039
Analyst
Magruder, Katherine
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Text Treatment
Text Overlap
8 20–24 Holscher, Joshua Expand
Analysis ID
3034
Analyst
Holscher, Joshua
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
ID
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Contratenor
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Superius
Voice Role (Dux 2)
Tenor
Voice Role (Comes 2)
Bassus
Voice Role (@1 or @8)
Superius
Voice Role (Above)
Superius
8 24–25 Holscher, Joshua Expand
Analysis ID
3038
Analyst
Holscher, Joshua
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No

Comments

Authentic Cadence: 2nd Ending.

8 24–28 Magruder, Katherine Expand
Analysis ID
3045
Analyst
Magruder, Katherine
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Final Repeat
Earlier Phrase
8
Repeat, Exact or Varied?

Comments

Open/closed endings.

8 24–26 Magruder, Katherine Expand
Analysis ID
3041
Analyst
Magruder, Katherine
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
8 24–25 Holscher, Joshua Expand
Analysis ID
3037
Analyst
Holscher, Joshua
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No

Comments

Evaded Cadence: 2>3 tenorizans motion (1st ending)

8 24–25 Buchanan, Christopher Expand
Analysis ID
3032
Analyst
Buchanan, Christopher
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No

Comments

Tenor has 2>3 instead of 2>1

8 24–26 Holscher, Joshua Expand
Analysis ID
3035
Analyst
Holscher, Joshua
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
8 24–26 Buchanan, Christopher Expand
Analysis ID
3029
Analyst
Buchanan, Christopher
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
8 25–28 Buchanan, Christopher Expand
Analysis ID
3030
Analyst
Buchanan, Christopher
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Final Repeat
Repeat, Exact or Varied?

Comments

Full cadence on second ending

8 25–25 Magruder, Katherine Expand
Analysis ID
3043
Analyst
Magruder, Katherine
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
8 26–27 Magruder, Katherine Expand
Analysis ID
3042
Analyst
Magruder, Katherine
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
8 28–28 Magruder, Katherine Expand
Analysis ID
3044
Analyst
Magruder, Katherine
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
8 28–28 Buchanan, Christopher Expand
Analysis ID
3031
Analyst
Buchanan, Christopher
Book Title
Tiers livre contenant XXII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No